Hi all

A while ago i send this e-mail to some of you and i want to tell you what happend after .

Hi my friends

I want to say hello to you all and tell you what's happend in my family, the reason why i was out.

Some of you knew that i was going to be a grandmother again. My oldest daughter was 5 months pregnant
from her second baby. About 6 weeks ago Vicky had to go to the hospital for a controle and an echo . On that moment the doctors saw there was something verry wrong with the baby. The brain was not good, to much water in it, the heart had a lot of holes and some other things i cant explain. The docs. thought it was " trisomie 18 " but did not know for sure. But we search for it on the internet, and it was hard what we found , verry hard. Vicky had to go back for a punction in the" .... water" ( i dont know the word) and the results from that proof that it was not what they thought but the baby could not survive anyway.So on her 5 monthes pregnacy she must let taking the baby away who was still alive then , but she had to, there was no other choice.Vicky give Birth to her first child with a C section and then she have to give birth on a normal way to a baby that would not survive. Things get very hard then.
When she told me the news on first she ask me to inform her sister and brother, so i did, and it was hard and strange for all of us. My other daughter Cindy was pregnant in that time too, but dont tell us that yet.But she was so shocked from the bad news she heard about her sister that she dont told me then. The day after she called me to tell that me that she was pregnant too and the only one on that time who knew was Vicky. So a lot of mixed feelings were there all that time.The day Vicky must go to the hospital to give birth to her baby that would die , that same morning Cindy lost her baby too.I cant tell you what was going trough me and all of us, it was a terrible and hard time, and things are still terrible by some circumstanses, things i can not talk about...

What will happend now, we had to wait. Cindy can go on trying right away try to get pregnant again.
Vicky had to wait for the results from the autoptie that the docs. did on her baby. It will depends on that if she ill try again or not.

I hope you understand that i was out for that time, i was here, but also not, i cant explain well..
I want to thank you my friends who only just read on Robin's forum that we had bad times, and support us without not knowing what went wrong.

Some of you had/have hard times too, i know, and i wish you all the luck , more than i can wish !

See you all somewhere, sometime,

Many hugs,

Ninneke

I can tell you that things are better now, after a few ruf months. The autoptie told us that the baby from Vicky had "translocation 15 20" That was something that could be , or in Vicky or in her husband blood/genes, so they have to do other researches on both of them. It was a weard thoughts, because, yes the internet is great, at the other hand when something happend like this in your own family you search on the internet and what we find from this all makes us still so scared, just like we first search for the trimosie, it was all terrible ... If one of them have that in there blood, they well gave it to there children too, if they had at, my other children might have it too... we had to wait for about 2 and a half months before we heard the good news that the bad chromosone was NOT in there blood , what a great relieve ! i dont have words enough to tell what a relieve it was. At the other hand Vicky was upsett, because on that time she said that there was no reason for the dead of her baby, but she had to wait to long for the results and after a few days she realize what that means for the future ..
I can make the great announcement, that Cindy is pregnant again , scard she is also, still .. tomorrow she have her first ultra sound and the only thing i can ask you all, my friends, to keep your fingers crossed so everything goes well now.

As sensitive as i am i was mentaly sick from this all and feel the pain from my daugthers myself, like all mothers do ..

I said before i came back and write the mails i had to answer, but one way or another it dont work.So i realy hope i can catch things up here and that is a lot as i was here always to read things, read beautyful stories, saw great pictures. .. TNX a lot for that , it was good to be here only to read in those hard times

Many big hugs,

Ninneke

It's so good to have you back here, Ninneke.
Yes, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and your whole family. I hope everythings turns to a happy ending.
I love you. And a huge hug right back to you.

Ines

Dear Nikkeke,

My dear girl I am so sorry to hear of everything that you have gone through and going through... I feel really bad putting my problems on you... I will have candles lit for you and your family that everything comes along for for you and the your entire family. . please keep us updated for i have priest in bery high places if i need to get word to them per your request..... Again my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family , and i am so so sorry putting my problems on you..(please forgive me i should have nevered bothered you with mine)
May God always be at your side and in your heart,
Big Hugs

Maryann (margaret)

Dear Ninneke,

I am so sorry for everything your family had to go through, and is still dealing with. I can't imagine how difficult that must be. You and your daughters are in my prayers!
Huge hugs!

Love,
Susanne

Its nice having you back on here Ninneke!

You and your family are in my prayers!

Welcome back, Ninneke! Smooches and hugs always!

TNX Ines Great to see you back !

TNX Margaret
no probs. my friend, i will listen to you all the time , if i can help you that's the question.... but dont mind write me PM's or mails, i dont mind .


TNX Suzanne I read a lot from you, see your pictures with Lori, thye are sooooooooo great ! I hope to get to know you better

TNX Kirsten good to be back !

TNX Lori it's just your hugs and smooches who help me a lot !

Dear Ninneke.... My prayers for you would be pretty much exactly the same as everyone else above has mentioned. I would like to offer my sincere sorrow to you and your family for your deep sadness and pain and my wish for you would be that the hope and promise of a new healthy baby on the way will help to ease some of your family's sorrow and sadness. My prayers to all. xxx

Dear Ninneke ! I wish send for you my big hug , and i hope you will forget all that things that happened when you will see your new grandbaby , and i wish you many more :!:

big hugs for your both dauthers too !!! they are both in my prayers !!!

TNX cricket for your kind words Good to see you again !

TNX to you too Veronica

Reading you all, it really warms my heart for you all !



Great news about the first ultro sound from Cindy , everything is very much alright ! What a relieve ! Now waiting for the second one :-))

Dear Ninneke !!! I believe , that this baby , will be heaithy and beatiful . i am glad with you ninneke . please tell us every thing .

TNX Veronica I can tell you that Cindy is very sick( her stumack ) for a while now, she lost 5 kilos weight But the doc. said it will do her no harm I try to tell you everything, but on this matter the English therms are still difficult for me :? :lol: I can tell you that Cindy is stopped with playing football, she is a great footbalplayer, but i am happy she stopped with it before she must stop ..
The big brother of the baby, my grandson Nathan celebrate his 9th birthday today :lol: And he is so proud that he is going to have a litlle sister or brother. But he defenatly want a babyboy to play football with him :lol:

great ninneke it seems your mood is changed very much to better . and i hope your grandson Nathan will play football with his brother soon

TNX Veronica, yeah, my mood ... good to be back ! As for Nathan, yes i hope his wish will come true, because every babies in the family are all girls , so everytime he was soooooooo dissepointed :shock: But that during not long, because he is so sweet with litlle babies and litlle children, i am sure i will be a fine and nice big brother, no matter what

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and Cindy. I know that you know
And please give Nathan a BIG hug from me. He is sooooooo cute.

TNX Ines I know ..

Cindy is doing great, and so do Nathan, i sure give him that hug, i hope i can give it to him fast ! And uuhhhh he know he's cute

Dear Ninneke !!! I hope, everything is well with Cindy and her baby and we will meet new Bee Gees fan very soon

please keep us posted, cindys got a great support system with you as her mother.

Tnx Veronica and sparki Yes i try to keep updating the pregnancy from Cindy

Last week she had her second ultrasound and everything is great Maybe the next time we know if it will be a boy or a girl Cindy said, the important thing is that the baby is heathy ! Besides that she rather have a boy again than a girl :lol: I do understand her, as i know her and if it is a boy she will learn him play football as soon as the baby can walk like she did with Nathan But i told her that these things depend of the character from the child, look at Cindy herself, she played football herself so fast in her young childhood, she was not a girl she was a boy if you see her bussy in that time :lol: I remember she can hardly walk she put a plastic bycicle on the " teatable" and climb on it , oh my, i had no eyes enough to keep watching her ( these were goooodddd times and i wish they where here, i wish they where here ... :lol: )

Bisides that, Cindy is okay, but still her stumack tells her verymuch she is pregnant , she is very sick from it sometimes and she can hardly eat something then, so i hope that it will be over soon for her :?

sparki, you are a great support to for your children , with your last mail you send me, indeed more and more we have a lot in comment, but everything will worked out well I answer you soon on that !

i dont know about that but i sure try

Ninneke,
I am truely sorry to hear the hard time you and your family is going through. My heart goes out to all of you. I especially feel for the dear mothers that lost their babies. I too lost my first baby by miscarriage. It never developed right and I was 12 weeks into the pregnancy. So I called it my blob pregnancy which was the only way I could really get through the loss of my baby by calling it a blob but in my hearts of hearts it was still my baby. I was at work when I started to have the miscarriage. I started to bleed and well I was alone in the office. I tried to get a hold of my boss and I could not get a hold of her because she was at a meeting. Then I tried to get a hold of my husband and could not reach him at work. I called my doctor's office only to find out that she was a way for the holidays so I had to call the doctor that was on call for her which I got an appointment right away. I called my mother and she was the only one I could reach. I ended up closing the office leaving a note on the door for my boss and left her a message on her cell that I needed to go to the doctors because something was wrong. I drove myself to the doctors and I had to go for an ultra sound. I was very thankful for the doctor to let me use her phone in her office to try calling my husband again and I finally reached him and he met me at the hospital and we found out that the baby was not developed and that I needed to have a D & C or what ever they call it. Which I had a couple of days later. This happened between Christmas and New Years of 2001 the same year we lost my father from colon cancer July 7th. My husband was devastated as I was but I told him that we would try again within the two months the doctor told me I would be most likely to become pregnant which we did. I was not going to give up and I didn't and I was glad I didn't because I did end up with two healthy children which I am truly thankful for. It is not easy loosing a child no matter what circumstances are and to be a loved one that is supporting them during their difficult time is hard as well. My thoughts and prayers go out to you all and things will get better as time goes on. There will always be a void but it gets easier. God speed to you and your family.
Cyber hugs,
SueBee

Hi Suebee

Tnx for your kind words ! I read your story and yes it is awfull to loose a baby on that way. In the passed when things are happend like that i always find it whurse, but as they said, when it happend to you or close to you , you feel the pain from the loss(and in my case the pain that my daughters had/have) so much more , so i am sorry for you of all what i read and sure the way it happend, it is just awfull ..

I am verry happy to read that you have two healthy children now, how old are they? Girls? Boys? One of each ? What questions i know , i am always like that

TNX again for your reply on my story, i had doubts after i post it, if i done the right thing, but now i see peopple can talk about it too, so i guess it was not that bad at all, it is so much easier to talk to a screen sometimes, and here we can share things, happy things but alos things less happy..

Hugs back,

Ninneke

PS, you can always send me a PM or you can mail me if you want !

Hi all

Cindy had her ultrasound yesterday and i can tell you that everything is great with the baby She called me for the good news, was not able to say a lot because Nathan, my grandson want the phone, and he was soooooooooo happy to tell me that it is a BOY Oh my, it was his biggest wish and once he told me he start to cry from emotions and happiness Tears all around as you can imagine .. i will be glad when i see him so i can give him a big

Cindy told me later about the new technics that the doc. works with and explain how i could be sure it is a boy, it's amazing :!:

I can tell you that Cindy is so much better too, that she is not sick anymore and that she can eat well now So you can understand that we are all exited and that she and we all enjoy this pregnancy of her's so much

Till the next update I feel like uuhhhh like dancing ofcourse, not as John Travolta :lol:

keeping finger crossed that everything stays as it should hazel and just

I am so happy to hear this, Ninneke!!! Giant smooches to all of you!

Such good news, Ninneke! I'm so happy for all of you.

Wonderfull news, Ninneke i am so glad with you and your family

This from me too!!!

From me too.

Dear Ninneke,

as a parent cries hearts, so many of fate!

You, Cindy and Vicky and all other family members must be very strong!

It is a great joy when I read,
it is now Cindy and the baby "Boy" is going well.

I wish Cindy and Baby Boy "Fortunately everything in the world.

Vicky is also for the sun appear again!

Happy holidays and even more luck for the Year 2009 wishes you and your entire family with all my heart Anja!